0 0. I have a ghost 3.5 in the 21 which gives it a slight edge over the Glock 4.5 lb connector in the 41. ... My buddy's got a 21SF and was having the same issues with the rail getting in the way. Reliability is the deciding factor. Ah, at last we get to know more about the powerful 10mm Auto.In case you missed it, in Round 1 of our series of Handgun Showdowns, we compared the Glock 22 and the Glock 23 and briefly touched on these subjects: 1. I have a 21sf and really like it a lot. I haven't held a SF or Gen 4 G21 as I'm having trouble tracking one down, but I'd like your input. Glock has packaged all of these and more into what I consider to be the perfect law enforcement duty weapon, the Glock 21SF (Short Frame). On the other hand, arguably no other pistol so thoroughly represents the modern firearm industry, from duty guns, to conceal carry to competition, better than the Glock. The Glock 30 is NOT a pocket pistol. The Glock 21, chambered in 45 Auto, comes in three variations: the Gen3, Gen4, and Short Frame models. It makes one handed shooting harder than it should be, its hard to reach the magazine release properly, and its just....well...big and uncomfortable. Glock 21 or 21sf ? Sent from my iPhone using Glock Forum This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. 5 Posts . Only the grip dimensions have changed. 4 years ago. Glock 21 Vs 21sf. LOL. Price: The 21 is about $100 cheaper give or take. RE: Glock 23 vs. Glock 21. Something tells me you're not really a red-headed dwarf with an axe fetish, are you? Sights: Normally the 21 would have plain ol' Glock sights vs. the 41's adjustables. It shot so naturally, I could dance soda cans at 50 yards with it. IMO JavaScript is disabled. Was wondering what your opinions are on these two guns. It's just too big, even for a big guy like me (6ft and a lot of lbs lol.) Thus, when I needed an affordable .45 ACP suppressor host, the Glock 21SF was the clear choice. The SF(Short Frame) slide is the same length as the standard Glock 21. I had settled on the Glock 23 .40 on the advice of a friend who carries on on duty.. I want to buy a Glock 21 to carry as my outdoor pistol. Re: Standard Glock 21 vs New Glock 21SF I bought the 21 SF recently, I have over the years ALWAYS wanted the Glock .45, but the 21 was just too big for my hands.. Long live the standard Glock 21! The *only* reason i'm thinking about Gen 4 vs Gen 3 SF is because with such a thick gun I think the more aggressive grip texture might help... and I don't like the idea of grip tape/stuff on my gun. I have average size palm but short fingers so I need a pistol with small grip circumference and short trigger reach. A forum community dedicated to hunters and enthusiasts. Alfonse. This Site Might Help You. 6 years ago. Glock 21SF: The 21SF is a version of the Glock 21 that uses a Short Frame lower which is based on the standard G21 frame (same width), but reduces trigger reach from the back of the grip by 2.5 mm (0.098 in), and the heel of the pistol is shortened by 4 mm (0.16 in) so the trigger can be reached and operated better by users with smaller hands. I went from the Glock 23 to the TacOps and I noticed a huge difference in accuracy and control. The GLOCK 21SF presents everything one would expect of a 45 Auto pistol. Can anyone tell me from first hand experience how much of a difference the SF (short … If you were going to get a slimmer model, and were only concerned about reliability between the two, would you get a G21 SF or Gen 4 G21? g21sf vs g21 gen 4, glock 20 vs 21 grip size, glock 21 gen 4 opening in grip, glock 21 gen 4 sf size, glock 21 sf gen 3 difference between 21 sf gen 4, glock 21 sf vs gen 4, glock g21sf vs gen4, what other glocks are the same size as the glock 21 gen 4. Trigger pull is the same 5.5 pounds for the same pistols, and trigger travel is the same .49 inches. Can anyone tell me from first hand experience how much of a difference the SF (short frame) model felt compared to the regular G21? my review of the g21 sfdont forget to rate and subscribe!thanks for watching! Come join the discussion about optics, trails, clubs, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more. Trigger: From the factory the 41 would win (4.5 vs 5.5 connector). I do think Battle Axes are excellent weapons, and I am pretty handy with a wood axe. Gen 3 21 magazines will work in the gen 4 21 if you keep the magazine release on the left side of the frame. Its been a good shooter, accurate, and dead nuts reliable. The 29.84 ounce Glock 21 is slightly heavier than the 25.06 ounce Glock 17 unloaded. #2. Source(s): https://shrink.im/bauQP. Is there any major differences between these two guns other than the sf is slimmer ? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If you can find a 21Gen4, or a 20SF or Gen4 of either kind, they are the same profile. The GLOCK 21SF is the duty pistol more or less forced upon me. I haven’t seen it fully explained yet, so I felt the burden was upon myself. Gaston Glock revolutionized the firearm industry like few others before him. And the pic rail/ambi release was a massive failure, so no, that's not around. February 14, 2012, 09:10 AM #2: Dashunde. I would not consider the G30 an ideal CC pistol. The friendliest gun forum on the Internet! Lv 4. The SF designation refers to this model having a Short Frame (not Slim Frame, as some suggest.) Several of us put close to 1,000 rounds through my sample G21SF, and it never missed a beat. Advantage 41. Glock 21 vs. 21SF. 10 vote(s) 35.7% The Glock 21SF is the new standard and makes the original obsolete. I've have not been able to find a G21 SF locally to know myself. The older style mags will function just fine in the 21SF, but if you intend on swapping the magazine release to the wrong side of the pistol than you will need the 21SF mags. Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by HMMurdock, Mar 8, 2007. ? I haven't compared to the gen 4 21 though. #1. Profiling is a fact of life. In reality, the Glock 21 is actually one of the best, and most affordable, .45 ACP pistols on the market. I've had a Glock 21 for a little over a year now. 0 0. kosse. Specifications: GLOCK 21 Short Frame Caliber:.45ACP Length: 8.03 in. (G21 SF or Gen 4 G21?) Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal. Glock 21SF (Gen 3) Glock 26 (Gen 3) Glock 34 (Gen 4) Glock 40 MOS/Trijicon RM07 Glock 42 GSSF Member Recovering Glockaholic. I have a gen 4 17 which I like a lot. .40 is cheaper ammo, snappier recoil. The recoil is really mild even with factory loads. Gen 3 21 magazines will work in any gen 1-3 21 or 21SF. The SF design reduces the circumference of the receiver, offering increased ease-of-use … http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eynv1q_Ttb0. The GLOCK 21SF presents everything one would expect of a 45 Auto pistol. Like other Glocks, the Glock 21SF is as close to completely reliable as any other gun. I have a lot of work to do before I’m really comfortable with the gun, but the basics are there for a reliable duty pistol, or a suitable gun for personal defense. How about the Glock 21 vs Sig Sauer’s 1911 TacOps? Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. Join Date: December 22, 2004. I could do a lot worse. I went to a local gun store and fondled both the 21SF (gen 3) and the new 21 (gen 4). Why the .40 S&W is a great option for self defense; 2. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. It is not quite as thick as the the 21. My very first Glock was a Glock 21 GEN 2. ! Police trade-in Glocks offer loads of value for the money. Also, the G30 is as wide as your 21sf (unless it is the 30s model). I fell in love with it, instantly. If the 21sf feels right in your hand, the other updates aren't all that imperative. Both also use a DAO (double action only) … After handling both today at the gun show, I really like the feel of the FN. I have heard of failures with the G21 SF magazine release, issues like Glocked brass (ejection port is not relieved) and the polygonal bore. The SF design reduces the circumference of the receiver, offering increased ease-of-use … A better choice for CC would be the G36 or G30s. Also the 21SF mags will work in the 21. It means your survival. The biggest difference I could see if the grip size. Glock 21 Gen3 45 Auto 13-Round Pistol $545.00 $539.99 But I hate the grip size. Glock 21. Discussion Starter • #1 • 3 mo ago. The SF frame is the same width as the standard frame, but trigger reach has been reduced by 2.5 mm and the heel of the grip is 4 mm shorter. Glock has packaged all of these and more into what I consider to be the perfect law enforcement duty weapon, the Glock 21SF (Short Frame). But, lest you think I’m putting Glock at a disadvantage by not comparing the most recent generation against the Springfield, that is not the case. .45 is more expensive with a smoother recoil. 18 vote(s) Senior Member . Trying out Glock's recent update of its biggest .45 ACP pistol, the G21 Gen 4. Width: 1.27 in. My top criteria for a law enforcement duty gun include reliability, stopping power, ergonomics, and ease of maintenance. For more information on how these numbers are calculated, please visit the Concealed Carry Factors™ information page. ...(I'm not really a raccoon, either. I have handled and shot the Glock before, but think that the ability to carry the FN cocked and locked would reduce the training issues when transitioning from my 1911. 41 has a longer sight radius too. The Glock 21SF is a Gen3-style pistol. So the new Gen 4 mags just like the Glock 21 SF mags have cut outs on either side of the mags. Do you notice any appreciable difference between the G21 and the slimmer models? I purchased the Glock 21 Gen 4 when it was (re)released earlier this year. I really couldn't feel a difference and the salesman said the gen 4 was basically the size of a 21SF. Photo via Glock. Both the SIG P320 and the Glock 21 are robustly made, reliable, have good fit and finish and use polymer frames. I am looking at the Glock 21 SF and the FNP 45. I am simply using the model I think is Glock’s best iteration of a high-capacity .45 ACP pistol. I have heard of failures with the G21 SF magazine release...but have also heard of issues with the Gen 4, but thought it was mainly with the 9mm models. LOL!!! Suite 500, Troy, Michigan 48084 USA. I miss having the extra rounds (13 rounds vs 8 rounds), but I have become a better and more confident shooter with the Sig TacOps simply because I can handle it better and the sight system is better. Also check out the 21SF. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. I don't care about the Gen 4 addon features like backstraps, mag release, dual recoil spring, etc. He wanted a Serpa really bad but they told him he'd have to heat up a long file or something similar and bend out the holster. "Now then, please take your gear, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me;" Genesis 27:3, stonegraham: Sir; I know nothing about 21’s. Don't tell anyone, though). Never forget: "Gun Control" is NOT about curbing criminal activity. Among current pistols my Colt Government model 1911A1 pistol with flat mainspring housing, short reach trigger and standard width (GI) grips fit my hand the best. Not hardly. It is about disarming patriotic citizens that would use force of firearms to vanquish a corrupt, tyrannical government. Do you prefer the standard Glock 21 .45 or the new Glock 21SF .45? The Glock 21SF has earned the following ratings for concealability, firepower, and overall suitability for concealed carry by persons with a valid CCW permit. (Never mind, I’m off the wagon) ... glock 21 vs glock 41 gen 4, glock 41 or glock 21, glock 41 reviews, glock 41 vs 21, glock 41 vs glock 21… Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 3290 W. Big Beaver Rd. Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by aliasneo07, Aug 25, 2012. I think is Glock ’ s best iteration of a 45 Auto, comes in three variations the... 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